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Post by hamiticsister101 on Sept 24, 2011 15:46:08 GMT -5
"I will stir up Egyptian against Egyptian--brother will fight against brother, neighbor against neighbor, city against city, kingdom against kingdom."- Isaiah 19:2. Do you think this prophecy is linked to what is going on in Somalia now? Somalis are killing each other, and its crazy because the ancient Egyptians have disobeyed God do you think this is what's going on. The whole text says that after this a cruel king shall rule over them. It is a major possibility, the Egyptians back then probably laughed and boasted and said that this will never happen to us but it did. And we know Horners are the real Egyptians, look at Somalia today and also the poverty in Ethiopia.
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Post by hamiticsister101 on Sept 24, 2011 15:49:57 GMT -5
Most Horners these days are leaving Islam and are becoming Orthodox Christians or Messianic Jews, and somehow their lives miracously changed as soon as they acknowledged Yahweh. The name Yahweh which is "Yahu" is actually present in the Somali language, when Somalis see something evil or hear about something they say "Yahu!" meaning "I seek refuge from you in Yahu" and in the Hebrew language Yahu or Yehu is the correct word for Him. The Cushitic Midianites that Moses lived with and married amongst worshipped Yahweh or Yahu, who was their only God. In fact Yethro/Jethro/Jeffrey/Shoiab was a Gentile Cushitic prophet who worshipped Yahu. Actually in the Book of Ezra the Jews have married a lot of the surrounding Canaanites and didn't consider them enemies, it was more hateful to marry an Assyrian or a Babylonian than a Canaanite.
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Post by hamiticsister101 on Sept 24, 2011 15:51:27 GMT -5
Should we return to our God, Yahu or Yahweh there are a lot of Somalis living in Israel and they are perfectly integrated there, in fact intermarriage between Somalis/Ethiopians and Jews is very common but it is forbidden amongst the Arab Palestinians.
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Post by Noah on Sept 25, 2011 2:51:56 GMT -5
The direct descendants of the Ancient Egyptians are the modern Egyptians. Since the Ancient Egyptians were a Hamitic people (brown-skinned Caucasoid people of Proto-Mediterranean origin), they of course shared many other relatives in the circum-Mediterranean region.
When speaking of modern populations, we should keep in mind that a lot of time has passed since the last Egyptian dynasty. Some intermixture has taken place since then, including amongst the descendants of the Ancient Egyptians' sibling Hamitic peoples. This is something we need to be realistic about. We should also keep in mind that a lot of outright assimilation of foreigners has taken place as well; so people that are today part of a given population might not necessarily have been so in the past.
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Post by hamiticsister101 on Sept 25, 2011 16:03:31 GMT -5
Well of course modern day Egyptians are also descendants of the ancient Egyptians, but I think this prophecy refers to the pure Egyptians which are Somalis because E1b1b V12------------E1b1b V32.
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Post by Noah on Sept 25, 2011 20:58:24 GMT -5
Ok, I see now what you mean. Another thing to remember is that there are a lot of peoples of Nilotic origin in Egypt. These folks should obviously not be confused with actual Hamitic Egyptians. For instance, in the chart below, one can clearly see that the typically Nilotic Paleo-African haplogroup B (M60) is carried by between 28%-43.1% of people in Egypt, depending on the region. That's a huge percentage of foreigners. It isn't an isolated occurrence either. As the graphic indicates, multiple studies have shown this, so what we're seeing is the actual uniparental profile of modern Egypt. Why do I label these haplogroup B-carrying folks "foreigners" instead of "mixed Egyptians"? Put simply, because the likelihood of almost 50% of actual Egyptians having Nilotes for paternal ancestors has no historical, archaeological, linguistic, and (especially) genetic basis. Modern Egyptians are almost entirely West Eurasian autosomally, including Upper Egyptians. The characteristic paternal marker linking all of the various Hamitic peoples is likewise E1b1b, not the archaic A or B haplogroups (the latter of which all Negroid populations originally carried). For the many haplogroup-B carrying folks in Egypt to represent, at the very least, mixed Egyptians, two things would first have to have happened/be in place: To start, Egyptians would have to have no social barriers vis-a-vis miscegenation with Negroid peoples. This obviously isn't the case, and, generally-speaking, never has been. Alternatively, Nilotes would have had to have conquered Egypt at some point(s) in history, and in the process, taken Egyptian brides by force on a massive scale. Needless to say, this fanciful scenario never took place either. The many haplogroup B-carriers in Egypt are thus foreigners, not actual Hamitic Egyptians. People of Nilotic origin have been entering Egypt for centuries. Consequently, the percentage of Nilotic markers is consistently higher in southern Egypt than it is in northern Egypt since the south is where the Nilotes penetrated the region from i.e. the Sudan region. In fact, per Cruciani et al. (2004), Zalloua et al. (2008) and Scozzari et al. (1999) (the latter of which is partly reproduced above), the typically Hamitic haplogroup E1b1b has an almost 20 percentage point higher frequency in northern or Lower Egypt than it does in southern or Upper Egypt. So if we go by paternal markers, that's the part of Egypt where more Egyptians of Hamitic descent are today actually concentrated. The south presently hosts a lot more foreigners of Sub-Saharan origin alongside Egypt's Hamitic nucleus, as paternal markers clearly show. This is also why Afrocentrists have really lost the plot whenever they post random pictures of Negroid-looking people in Egypt and insist that those are the "true" Egyptians. Uh, no they're not. Egyptians are, at their origin, swarthy Caucasoids of Proto-Mediterranean stock.
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Post by hamiticsister101 on Sept 26, 2011 17:38:49 GMT -5
The Nilotes of Egypt are Northern Sudanese people who are mixed, in Egypt today you have Nubians, Somalis, Ethiopians (whether of Hamitic or Nilotic stock is unknown), Libyan (Berber), Arab, and French Europeans.
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Post by Noah on Sept 26, 2011 22:09:28 GMT -5
True sis, but the paternal DNA profiled above pertains to self-identified Egyptians, not to self-identified foreigners. Thus, with the massive frequencies of the Nilotic-associated paternal haplogroup B in Egypt, we are in fact dealing with assimilated peoples of Nilotic origin. This process of assimilation actually characterizes all of the main Hamitic populations, which is why the various caste systems were historically erected to preserve the primacy of the founding Hamitic element within each group.
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Post by hamiticsister101 on Sept 27, 2011 18:18:34 GMT -5
The Modern day Arab Spring is causing some troubling events in world history. While the whole world is deluded to believe that "Al-Rabiic al Carabi" or the Arab Spring is caused by the populations in the Middle East and North Africa to have democratic nations, most don't understand that once the kings of the old Arab guard go down, either tyrannical leaders will raise up and I'm very sure that this will happen after Syria and Yemen overthrow their leaders as they are about to now, and the rest of the Middle East will be taken over by terrorism or chaos. Soon a man will raise up and tell everyone that he is a bringer of peace, Muslims call him "Al Mahdi: Gauded One", Judeo-Christianity refers to him as "the AntiChrist". The disturbing events of the Muslim world is really setting the stage for something terrifying, a New World Order will raise of some sort. Millions will be slaughtered.
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Post by Noah on Sept 27, 2011 22:14:46 GMT -5
There have been a lot of strange occurrences that does almost make one wonder. What with all of the recent natural disasters, wars, and prophecies of an impending apocalypse. Certain people claim that according to the Mayan calendar, the world as we know it is expected to come to an end as soon as next year, 2012. Others insist that this belief is based on a misinterpretation. Talk about bad timing, though! Perhaps I should build HU members an Ark, just in case.
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Post by hamiticsister101 on Sept 27, 2011 23:58:28 GMT -5
Lol @ building an Ark, ok NOAH LOL! No I am actually serious the escalating conflicts around the world, the famines, the tsunamis/typhoons, etc. earthquakes, terrorist attacks, the falling market in Europe and North America which will make the whole world poor, is setting the stage for what the Bible calls the ANTI-CHRIST, WHO WILL BRING GLOBAL PEACE, BETTER ECONOMY, AND SO ON. HE WILL UNITE THE WORLD, AND HIS MAIN AIM AND GOAL WILL BE "PEACE" BUT INSTEAD HE IS REALLY EVIL AND WILL BRING DESTRUCTION AND DEATH. STRANGELY THE BIBLICAL ANTICHRIST, MIRRORS THE ISLAMIC AL MAHDI. AND THE BIBLICAL FALSE PROPHET MIRRORS THE ISLAMIC JESUS.
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Post by hamiticsister101 on Sept 28, 2011 0:05:25 GMT -5
BIBLICAL ANTI-CHRIST: 1. WILL BRING A GLOBAL GOVERNANCE. 2. WILL DECIEVE THE WORLD, AND COME IN A TIME OF TURMOIL TO BE A MAN OF PEACE. 3. WILL BE A RELIGIOUS, POLITICAL AND MILITARY LEADER. 4. WILL FORCE TO CONVERT JEWS AND CHRISTIANS TO HIS FALSE RELIGION, OR BE BEHEADED. 5. WILL RULE THE WORLD FOR SEVEN YEARS, AND MAKE A TREATY WITH ISRAEL FOR 7 YEARS. 6. WILL RULE THE WORLD FROM JERUSALEM ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT. 7. WILL BE THE RIDER OF A WHITE HORSE. 8. WILL BE ASSISTED BY A FALSE PROPHET. 9. WILL CHANGE THE LAWS AND TIME OF EARTH NOW LOOK AT AL MAHDI THE ISLAMIC SAVIOUR: 1. WILL RULE THE WORLD. 2. WILL COME OUT WHEN THERE IS TURMOIL ON EARTH, AND CLAIM TO BRING PEACE 3. WILL RULE THE WORLD FOR 7 YEARS, MAKE A TREATY WITH ISRAEL FOR 7 YEARS BEFORE INVADING THEM. 4. WILL TELL THE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS TO CONVERT TO ISLAM OR DIE. 5. WILL BE ASSISTED BY THE ISLAMIC JESUS TO CONVERT THE WORLD 6. WILL RULE THE WORLD FROM DOME OF THE ROCK (TEMPLE MOUNT) IN JERUSALEM. 7. WILL DECEIVE THE WORLD AND THE WORLD SHALL LOVE HIM. IN FACT ISLAMIC TEACHINGS SAY THAT MUSLIMS WON'T BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE HIM AT ALL BUT CHRISTIANS WILL. 8. WILL MAKE SHARIAH LAW THE LAW OF THE LAND, WILL SET UP ISLAM AS THE RELIGION OF THE WORLD, WILL CHANGE THE CALENDAR TO THE HIJRI MUSLIM CALENDAR. Well this is strange I really think that the Islamic Al Mahdi is the Antichrist of the Bible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by hamiticsister101 on Sept 28, 2011 0:06:15 GMT -5
If the Antichrist of the Bible, is the Mahdi of Islam, the Jesus of Islam is the False Prophet of the Bible, then Allah must be...
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Post by hamiticsister101 on Sept 28, 2011 0:07:15 GMT -5
Oh yeah number 9:
Al Mahdi will also be the rider of a white horse like the anti Christ.
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Post by Noah on Sept 28, 2011 22:10:49 GMT -5
Sounds like you're going through a bit of a crisis of faith there sis...
Religious beliefs are a sensitive matter that are really beyond the scope of this Hamitic-themed forum.
From an HU perspective, though, when it comes to the Abrahamic creeds, they are all just Afro-Asiatic faiths anyway. They therefore needn't be a source of conflict.
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