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Post by hamiticsister101 on Aug 19, 2011 4:42:00 GMT -5
The Jews, who in ancient times were called Hebrews or Israelites are a Semitic speaking population related to the nieghboring Semitic groups like the Ishmaelites (Arabized Arabs) and the Ya'rabites (Pure Arabs), Assyrians (sons of Assur son of Shem), Aramaens (sons of Aram son of Shem), Chaldeans (sons of Arphaxad son of Shem) and so on.
The word "Jew" comes from the first son of Jacob/Yacob (also called Israel) who was known as Judah or Yahudah. Israel is another name for Jacob/Yacob, this is why they are called Children of Israel or Bani/Bnei Israel/Yisrael. Israel means "Preservere with God" in Hebrew. The word Hebrew comes from Heber or Eber, Eber was the great-grandson of Noach/Noah/Nuuh and a distant ancestor of Abraham. Eber is famously known in the Qur'an as Hud who came to warn the people of 'Ad one of the Ya'rabites (pure Arabs) who lived in southern Arabia to stop worshipping stars/planets and idols. In the Bible it says that he married a Cushite woman from Arabia. Remember the original Arabs including the Midianites were called Cushites. The Midianites were Ya'rabites however they are considered and called Cushites in the Bible.
Abraham who was a Chaldean from Arphaxad son of Shem son of Noah fathered the Israelites and the Ishmaelites (Arabized Arabs). But because Abraham fathered recent Arabs and Jews that means that the original Hebrews and Arabs already existed and these are new peoples. The Ishmaelites themselves especially the Kederites (the Green Ones or Black Ones) were called Cushites or dark skinned peoples. If one looks at the original Arabs such as the Mehra (Carab Salax in Somalia), the Himyar, the Soqotris, Sabaens the Gezzan and so on no one can differentiate them from the Hamites. The Bible calls both Ham and Shem as being dark skinned, saying Ham was darker as dark as a raven and beautiful.
So the original Hebrews from Heber and the original Arabs from Ya'rab or Yacrab are not from the Arabized Arabs or the new Jews from Israel at all. They were a dark skinned population that resembled today's Southern Arabians or today's Habesha people (Amhara, Gurage, Harari, Tigray-Tigriniyya, Tigre, etc) who were a mixture of the original Semitic and Hamitic. The Kohanites the elite priesthood in Israel are 55% Kohan, and the rest is E1b1b. Clearly showing that the ancient Hebrews were a mixture of pure Semitic and Hamitic. The paleness probably came from the Persian or Indo-European enslavement of which the nomadic Arabs call "red" or "pale". In fact ancient poetry indicates that the Arabs considered people with pale skin as being those of the slavehood.
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Post by theleader9 on Aug 19, 2011 14:46:58 GMT -5
I agree sister there are many report of ancient Hebrew having brown skin and curly hair, it's not something new but it's covered up by the fake Jew's we have today.
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Post by hamiticsister101 on Aug 19, 2011 16:08:13 GMT -5
Ishmaelites and Israelites are not Hebrews or Arabs they just stole that identity. They should just be called Abrahamites lol! Hebrews are descedents of Eeber or Heber and Arabs are descedents of Yacrab/Ya'rab both being of Hamitic-Semitic ancestry and most likely resembling today's Ya'rabites in Arabia and the Semitic speaking Ethiopian population.
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Post by Noah on Aug 19, 2011 18:50:47 GMT -5
Let's also not forget that the highest frequency of the basal paternal haplogroup J* is found in the dark-skinned Caucasoids from Socotra. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J_%28Y-DNA%29So the old literature that speaks of "dark Arabs" and such is in all probability referring to people that looked that way, not to Negroid folks (the latter of whom obviously aren't native to the Middle East).
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Post by theleader9 on Aug 19, 2011 19:01:30 GMT -5
Cute kids they look a bit south Indian esp the younger one on the right.
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Post by hamiticsister101 on Aug 19, 2011 19:02:05 GMT -5
Yeah they have the highest J frequency in the isolated islands of Socotra, yeah they do look Dravidian don't they?
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Post by theleader9 on Aug 19, 2011 19:05:47 GMT -5
Slightly off topic but since we were talking about ancient Jews being part Hamitic and part Semitic do you guys support intra Caucasoid marriages?
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Post by hamiticsister101 on Aug 19, 2011 19:11:58 GMT -5
Intra Caucasoid marriages? No because every person deserves to survive, and every culture deserves to survive including intra-Caucasian peoples. Would Arabs exist if there were no Arabic language or people do intermixing and assimilation to another culture? Of course not.
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Post by theleader9 on Aug 19, 2011 19:14:53 GMT -5
By Intra Caucasoid Caucasoid marriages I meant 2 different sub races of Caucasoids in a relationship like a Semetic and a Hamitic but yes I do agree with you sister every race deserves to survive.
Keep it nice and pure lol.
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Post by hamiticsister101 on Aug 19, 2011 19:18:45 GMT -5
Yeah I know what you meant like a Semite having a relationship with an Indo-European or an Indo-European with an Elamo-Dravidian or an Elamo-Dravidian with a Hamite. In order for the Caucasoid peoples to be unique they must not commit miscegnition but be pure in producing more Indo-Europeans or Hamites or Semites.
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Post by Noah on Aug 20, 2011 20:54:13 GMT -5
@ Leader I think our focus should be on combating anti-Hamitism and on emphasizing and protecting the existence of a distinct Hamitic branch of Caucasoid peoples. As we have seen in the Anti-Hamitism in academia thread (which I shall try and expand on later this week), we have some detractors in high places. So the onus is on us to both guard against and redress that. Hamites also need to be made aware of their actual racial identity so that they make more informed choices in all important facets of their life, including marriage; choices that strengthen rather than weaken the already endangered Hamitic people's chance at survival.
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Post by Noah on Aug 20, 2011 21:12:26 GMT -5
It's also not a coincidence that the Socotran kids above look quite South Asian. There's ample evidence that South Asia was one of the early centers of evolution and dispersal of the Caucasoid race. Many mtDNA haplogroups that are found in West Asian peoples actually ultimately trace back there. That includes the maternal haplogroup R, whose downstream clade R0a is one of the most frequent mtDNA lineages in Socotra. Socotrans possess a special sub-clade of R0a that's apparently unique to them. "The Soqotra archipelago is one of the most isolated landmasses in the world, situated at the mouth of the Gulf of Aden between the Horn of Africa and southern Arabia. The main island of Soqotra lies not far from the proposed southern migration route of anatomically modern humans out of Africa 60,000 years ago (kya), suggesting the island may harbor traces of that first dispersal. Nothing is known about the timing and origin of the first Soqotri settlers. The oldest historical visitors to the island in the 15th century reported only the presence of an ancient population. We collected samples throughout the island and analyzed mitochondrial DNA and Y-chromosomal variation. We found little African influence among the indigenous people of the island. Although the island population likely experienced founder effects, links to the Arabian Peninsula or southwestern Asia can still be found. In comparison with datasets from neighboring regions, the Soqotri population shows evidence of long-term isolation and autochthonous evolution of several mitochondrial haplogroups. Specifically, we identified two high-frequency founder lineages that have not been detected in any other populations and classified them as a new R0a1a1 subclade. Recent expansion of the novel lineages is consistent with a Holocene settlement of the island ~6 kya." www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/121519842/abstractR0a is believed to have originated in Arabia, and is also relatively frequent amongst the Eastern Hamitic peoples throughout Northeast Africa, as is its downstream clade HV1. "Archaeological studies have revealed cultural connections between the two sides of the Red Sea dating to prehistory. The issue has still not been properly addressed, however, by archaeogenetics. We focus our attention here on the mitochondrial haplogroup HV1 that is present in both the Arabian Peninsula and East Africa. The internal variation of 38 complete mitochondrial DNA sequences (20 of them presented here for the first time) affiliated into this haplogroup testify to its emergence during the late glacial maximum, most probably in the Near East, with subsequent dispersion via population expansions when climatic conditions improved. Detailed phylogeography of HV1 sequences shows that more recent demographic upheavals likely contributed to their spread from West Arabia to East Africa, a finding concordant with archaeological records suggesting intensive maritime trade in the Red Sea from the sixth millennium BC onwards. Closer genetic exchanges are apparent between the Horn of Africa and Yemen, while Egyptian HV1 haplotypes seem to be more similar to the Near Eastern ones. " onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajpa.21522/abstract
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Post by hamiticsister101 on Aug 21, 2011 4:17:56 GMT -5
More proof that Kumari Kandam, otherwise known as Cusha (Atlantis, Meropis, etc) existed and it connected India to Sri Lanka to nearby islands. We all came from there, and migrated everywhere.
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Post by Noah on Aug 21, 2011 17:55:28 GMT -5
There are also other uniparental DNA ties between Hamitic peoples and South Asia. These include the common maternal haplogroup M1 (whose parent clade macrohaplogroup M originated in Asia and has its highest frequency and diversity in South Asia) and the paternal haplogroup T (which also has its highest frequency in South Asian populations).
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Post by hamiticsister101 on Aug 21, 2011 19:04:43 GMT -5
Man I knew it all along that we came from South Asia lol! Zumali Ram Nag was a South Asian refugee a Dravidian lol! The Hindu Vedas say that the Cusha Dwipa (Cushites) ruled all of South Asia, Iran, and travelled west to settle in Africa and the Middle East. The Elamo-Dravidians were in Elam and Susa both mentioned in Biblical times as well, the Sumerian kingdom was called Kish or Kush. And the list goes on and on. We came from Cusha the continent that connect India, to Sri Lanka and nearby islands.
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